貌似还很长很长的样子，貌似木有尽头的样子，
为了生命健康着想，果然不应该跳坑吗！！！
看见这么长的一串英文，只能说，太强大了，
从来英文白痴的我，简直是膜拜啊！！！
然后，就不得不自问为什么就是学不好外文咧！！！
还有啊，还有啊，这里的夏树是库鲁卡吗？？？
因为还没有看，就先问了？？
一直觉得，其实玖我是玖我，库鲁卡是库鲁卡，藤乃是藤乃，维奥拉是维奥拉的！！
有时候混得也是看得感觉怪异的！！

本帖最后由 Seigetsu 于 2012-9-23 14:48 编辑

原作更新至chapter 62~~~只是有些地方读不懂~~~果然我英文能力不行~~~~~

那裏看不慬? 看看我們能不能幫得上忙?

千萬別是夏樹刺殺靜留的...不過這篇文章沒有悲劇走向的氛圍阿

The more recent chapters seem to head in that tragic direction...which is why I'm worried.

Icemera的文角色OOC是絕對的，但佈局精巧，情節跌宕，因而值得一看。論文字論筆力，她的短篇從來比長篇寫的好，比對Superstar 和 Whisper from the Forest 可知。不過看Legend of the Vampire 好像進步了些。

(Sorry, I'm not on my home computer, and am having some trouble with the Chinese IME, so can't really type anything complex in Chinese. Have to type English instead...really sorry about this.)

I agree that Icemera's technique is not that great compared to ethnewinter, or some of the others I've mentioned (7rabbits, lonely gester). "Legend of the Vampire" is quite good compared to "Whisper from the Forest" and "Until the End of Time". In my opinion, Icemera's sentences can get a little choppy, and at times, I feel the scene transitions are too abrupt and can use more description just to ease everything through. Her plot and characters are quite well developed, but likewise, there is often not enough emotion build-up prior to the climax, making me more "intrigued" by the twist than "stunned". However, I see some merits in her writing style compared to the authors you've mentioned. Have you read a book called "Sing You Home" by Jodi Picoult? I think it is a good example of how simplistic writing styles can excel, and while Icemera isn't at that level yet, I see her improvement in LotV as an indication that she is headed in that direction. (to be honest, I couldn't last through the first few paragraphs of "Superstar" because of the OOCness, so...I've never gotten far enough to compare the writing style with her later works...)

While I like "Inter Nos", it is mainly for the plot, rather than the writing style. By no means do I think ethnewinter to be a bad author; it's just that...I find some of her paragraphs to be too wordy, especially when trying to describe the characters' internal conflicts. I feel that she can use a little more "show than tell". Instead, she does both "show and tell". I sometimes wish she would leave more leeway for the readers to just...feel for themselves what the characters would be going through. I admit to skipping entire paragraphs of IN because of this. I think I'd compare ethnewinter's style to Margaret Atwood. While both Atwood and George Orwell write dystopian novels, I much prefer Orwell because of his simplistic style. I suppose it's more a personal preference though. What I'm trying to get at is that "vocabulary" and "flowery sentences" do not necessarily constitute "good writing technique", and that those who write more simplistically can be equally effective, or even more so in some cases.

I also agree with you that reading the original English piece by ethnewinter is good practice for those learning the language. The fact that she actually goes back and proofreads her work multiple times makes it quite error-free (I've only caught a handful of typos through the 61 chapters. Haven't read ch.62 yet, but she's generally really good about proofreading). 7rabbits, I must admit, is quite bad at this. Her skill is there, but errors are spiced throughout like most FFN pieces out there. I would also really recommend Jodi Picoult's book I've mentioned above (also a lesbian novel in case somebody is wondering). It's a very different style, but also really good in its own way. Also, feel free to try and write in the language. I think you can learn much quicker that way.

Once again, just want to applaud you for your efforts in translating this. It's really amazing. I agree that translation is also great practice for the usage of both languages (maybe I should try something to practice my Chinese, though I think I'm still too far behind to translate legibly). Hope you'll continue this!

原作更新至chapter 62~~~只是有些地方读不懂~~~果然我英文能力不行~~~~~{:4_361:}

[quote][size=2][color=#999999]Seigetsu 发表于 2012-9-18 13:39[/color] [url=forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=37036790&ptid=73166][img]static/image/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size]
看到LZ翻譯功力那麼深厚, 不禁覺得自己中文程度太差了. 真的很配服啊. 尤其是翻 "鯨魚" 那部分, 跟原作一樣 ...[/quote]

I'm following "Legend of the Vampire" as well. It's really a work of art, and i'm still waiting for updating.... I hope she could finish it first, so that i can move forward to her next story "Until the End of Time."

{:4_357:}真的很有深度的文章
看了原文後知道s大翻譯的真好
請繼續加油...當然也不要造成S大的負擔才好{:4_348:}

設定真的好妙!
很多篇裡的靜留都活生生的印在眼前了
恰到好處的描寫和兩人之間的情趣的段落非常出色阿

看691樓的留言覺得非常擔心阿...
千萬別是夏樹刺殺靜留的...不過這篇文章沒有悲劇走向的氛圍阿{:4_351:}
總之辛苦了{:4_348:}

看到LZ翻譯功力那麼深厚, 不禁覺得自己中文程度太差了. 真的很配服啊. 尤其是翻 "鯨魚" 那部分, 跟原作一樣, 太好笑, 太萌了.

LZ有考虑翻原作者的 "author's notes" 嗎? 有時後看author's notes會覺得找到些暗示, 不知大家是否有同感?

I've tried reading Icemera's "Superstar" on FFN, but I don't think it's my cup of tea. But then, I'm reading "Legend of the Vampire", which I think is really good. I'm also following "Until the End of Time", which is decent, though not my favourite from her, I suppose.

I’m still waiting~~~~~~~~~~~~~~{:4_384:}

楼主翻译功力不浅呀，静夏文喜欢

[quote][size=2][color=#999999]Seigetsu 发表于 2012-9-10 04:03[/color] [url=forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=37027052&ptid=73166][img]static/image/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size]
個人認為25章到45章的步伐比較慢一點, 但到了46章 (就是靜留回到Fuuka的那一章) 以後步伐又加快了, 很好看. ...[/quote]

我很认真的再读了一遍，基本上和凯撒很相似，但是还是看得到另一个古罗马领袖的影子，就是屋大维，凯撒的继承者，嗯，怎么说呢，我认为作者是将凯撒、屋大维还有罗马帝国“五贤帝”给揉到一块儿在写~~~~~{:4_340:} （感觉自己已经理解得乱七八糟了{:4_330:} ）

看了楼上的发言更期待了！

個人認為25章到45章的步伐比較慢一點, 但到了46章 (就是靜留回到Fuuka的那一章) 以後步伐又加快了, 很好看. 我最喜歡就是作者寫有關政治和戰鬥的場面.

我在看FFN的reviews, 有人說靜留在60章時初提及的十三兵團(Legio XIII)很有名, 就上了wikipedia去搜一搜, 找到這個: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_XIII_Gemina[/url] (英文的, 沒有中文, 對不起) 可能作者是以凱撒作為藍圖來寫靜留的? 那麼夏樹呢? 請不要是殺凱撒的Marcus Brutus啊 (因為據說凱撒死的時候說"καὶ σύ, τέκνον" (英文: "You too, child?" 中文大概是: "你也是嗎, 小孩?") 在這同人裏, 靜留可是常叫夏樹做 "my child" 啊 {:4_384:}

新章是有求婚啊, 她們兩說起來像談生意般的, 超萌

[quote][size=2][color=#999999]Seigetsu 发表于 2012-9-9 13:41[/color] [url=forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=37026028&ptid=73166][img]static/image/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size]
Here: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5609112/1/Cramoisi

這個也很好看, 可是比 Inter Nos 短, 還有好 ...[/quote]

非常感谢！！！！！！！！！话说Inter Nos 新更的那章有求婚呐！！！！！！！看了好激动滴说~~~~~~yamiboqe030

[quote]where's the "Cramoisi"? would you give the address?[/quote]

Here: [url]http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5609112/1/Cramoisi[/url]

這個也很好看, 可是比 Inter Nos 短, 還有好像很久沒有更新了. 故事發生在19, 20世紀的巴黎, 和IN一樣都引用了西方歷史元素(當然時代背景是不一樣的)

[quote][size=2][color=#999999]Seigetsu 发表于 2012-9-9 03:30[/color] [url=forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&pid=37025464&ptid=73166][img]static/image/common/back.gif[/img][/url][/size]
Holy...this...is...amazing.

It took me weeks just to get through the entire story (up to current ...[/quote]

where's the "Cramoisi"? would you give the address?

LZ意志超强，感谢更文{:2_257:}

[i=s] 本帖最后由 Seigetsu 于 2012-9-8 13:12 编辑 [/i]

Holy...this...is...amazing.

It took me weeks just to get through the entire story (up to current chapter 61). It's a brilliant piece, but very long, and it takes patience just to read through it, let alone doing a translation. Keep it up!

EDIT: would LZ be interested in translating some other works from FFN? I personally find "Cramoisi" by 7rabbits and "A Dame to Kill For" by lonely jester to be pretty decent works as well. Of course, I'm sure your hands are full just by translating something as grande as IN though

作者好像有為這故事畫插圖, 在這裡 [url]http://ethnewinter.deviantart.com/[/url]

神文更了啊~~~~~~~~~(拜

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對不起大家，這幾天罵人要緊，顧不上翻譯了。但願兩周內可以復工（復工而已，不是更新下一章！）

此告。

真的很棒，作者和翻译大大都赛高！！！！{:2_255:}