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[课题讨论] 【英文】从音乐学英语---obsessed

[课题讨论] 【英文】从音乐学英语---obsessed

本帖最后由 魂飞魄散 于 2009-10-6 12:33 编辑

如何轻松的欣赏英语?
思来想去,音乐,是一个不错的方法。
百合会英文达人一把抓,在下半桶水,此贴纯抛砖。
其实我觉得大概会冷。哈哈。
希望对英文涉及不深的同学,可以对英文产生一些兴趣。


这里暂时先介绍一首歌。因为我不知道怎么做才对学习更有帮助。并送上MF下载。不高音质。见谅。
MF下载点
这首是国际巨星(international superstar),mariah carey在《Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel》里的obsessed。


Memoir的意思是回忆录,imperfect angel是不完美的天使。
在专辑介绍里,第一句写到“Imperfections are in the eye of the beholder.”这句是从beauty is in the eye of the beholder(情人眼里出西施)演变而来的,意思是见仁见智。
Beholder = 旁观者
莎士比亚曾说,“Beauty is bought by judgement of the eye”也算是异曲同工吧?
Judgement= 判断力

接下来的第二句,就有激励效果。
You can see them as flaws, or as the very qualities that make us human -- and that make us strive to be better people in search of a perfection that we know we can never fully achieve.
你可以把他们(imperfections)看成(flaws)瑕疵, 或使我们成为人类的特有本质(quality)。让我们能在探索完美的方面成为更好的人而奋斗,虽然我们知道绝对完美是永远达不到的。
你可以试下玩弄这个句子,_______ is the very quality that makes us human。
打个比方,humanity(慈爱)is the very quality that makes us human。
Strive(奋斗),I’ve strived to pass exam with flying colours。Flying colours是胜利的旗帜,也就是凯旋啦。不过如果你要说,奋斗至深夜,你可以用“burning the midnight oil” 挑灯苦读啊~

MC 说:"Each song is like an intimate conversation or entry in a private diary"
(每一首歌都像一场亲密对话,或是私密日记里的记载。)
"A lot of the songs reflect(反映) specific(特定的), different times in my life. Others were inspired(启迪) by movies, actual events that happened to me, or the stories of friends who told me about experiences that they've gone through."
“很多歌都反映出我生活里特定及不同的时间段。有些则从电影,发生在我身上的事件或朋友们告诉我的故事里得到灵感。”
“I’ve gone through so many difficulties”也就是“我经历了很多困难”。



关于这首《obsessed》(着迷),大家都知道是讽刺(to mock)痞子eminem的。
里面的歌词,真是逗得不行。
比如"Seeing right through you like you're bathing in Windex".
Windex是擦玻璃的一种肥皂水品牌。
I can see right through you,不是说你隐形(invisible),而是说我可以看穿你。
下次同学看穿了朋友的阴谋诡计,可以用这句子。

咳咳,我们还是认真的从歌词学习一些字眼吧。我只是挑一些来讨论。
Obsess,在医学上的定义(基本叫obsessive-compulsive disorder强迫症)我就不多说了,不然就得输入几页我自己都不想看的字。
在这里,就用“着迷”来解释。
I am so obsessed with yamibo。我对百合会着迷得不能自己。

I'm up in the A- you're so so lame
and no one here even mentions your name
It must be the weed, it must be the E
cuz you be poppin, hood, you get it poppin'

我是A级的,你却如此蹩脚。
甚至无人提及你的名字。
那一定是大麻(Weed, pot, buddha or bud, Mary Jane, grass, herb, dope, schwag, and reefer也就是大麻(marijuana,cannabis的别名),一定是因为迷幻药(ectasy)
因为你不经大脑的说话,小流氓,你让它突然爆发。

Pop这里的意思不好说,欢迎大家更正。
我不确定她是不是要说popping hood,那个的意思是
“打开车前面那块”中文我不知道叫啥的板。
Hood,也就是hoodlum, 流氓的意思。US的俚语。

引用:

poppin'有"get started...", "happening", "going on"的含意
而hood有"ghetto", "someone from the ghetto", 以及其他一些比較限制級的意思
我想在這邊的解讀應該是
you get it poppin' = you started it (dissing)
(是你先開始的((開始找麻煩/在歌裡互相攻擊)))
hood = hinting that eminem was from the ghetto
triton667 发表于 2009-10-6 06:05
这位大大的ghetto是说eminem的黑人文化。(ghetto也有低级的意思
其他同义俚语: Hoodlum, Gangsta, Thug, Nigga, Pimp, Street-rat, Street Urchin, etc.

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Since it's immediately after "It must be the weed, it must be the E",
plus she talked about sex later in the song, I think,
"cuz you be poppin', hood, you get it poppin'"
=> because you are popping drugs, gangster, you are ready for sex

The first pop means getting high; the 2nd pop, "get it poppin" means go get some sex.
It's dirty black slang...
stat 发表于 2009-10-6 09:24
感谢解惑。鞠躬。
中文就popping (food)来说,是胡乱吃东西(不经大脑的)。
例句为: we were popping peanuts while watching movie.(我们看戏时(自动性的)吃花生)
可是就一些俚语字典来说(我去查了下),嗑药的嗑就是poppin了。(必须是药片)
所以you are poppin drugs,这里就是嗑药了
第二个you get it poppin' = 你要做爱。

初步浅译:
一定是大麻,一定是迷幻药
因为你磕了药,小流氓,所以你要做爱。


对不好笑的笑话,我们也可以说lame joke。白雷马文,lame story。
Lame的另一个意思是跛腿。The accident made him lame in the right leg.车祸使他的右脚腐了。

Ohh finally found a girl that you couldn't impress
Last man on the earth- still couldn't get this
终于找到一个你无法感动到的女孩
就算全世界只剩你一个男人,还是不能得到我。

这段简直是毒辣(就英文来说),看来痞子除非变性做百合,不然以男人身是绝对不可能得到凯莉的了。有人说这是devastating putdown。(辛辣的贬低)
Devastating,的意思有毁灭性的,挖苦的,惊人的,压倒性的,或有魅力的。也就是褒贬皆有。
The comedy was completely devastating.那个戏剧滑稽极了。
You look devastating in that new dress.你穿那套新衣看起来漂亮极了。当然我们通常说:“you look gorgeous!”
“Last man on earth- still couldn't get me”同学可以学起来。

暂时就这样。谢谢大家。

Mariah (Speaks):

"Why you so obsessed with me?"

So Oh Oh So Ohhh
Will the real MC please step to the mic?(真正的玛丽亚凯莉请来麦克风前)
MC- You need an MC, place to be
MC the MC

All up in the blogs(部落格)
Say we met at the bar
When I don't even know who you are
Say we up in your house
Sayin' I'm up in your car
But you in LA and I'm out at Jermaine's

I'm up in the A- you're so so lame
and no one here even mentions your name
It must be the weed, it must be the E
cuz you be poppin, hood, you get it poppin'

Ooh boy why you so obsessed with me?
Boy I want to know- lyin' that you're sexin me(说着我们做爱的谎言)
when everybody knows it's clear that you're upset with(因….而懊恼) me
Ohh finally found a girl that you couldn't impress
Last man on the earth- still couldn't get this

You're delusional, you're delusional(你只是痴心妄想)
Boy you're losing your mind
It's confusin yo, you're confused you know
Why you wasting your time?
Got you all fired up with your Napoleon complex(拿破仑情节,就是矮子情节,不在医生用词内,只是layman用)
See right through you like you're bathin' in windex

Ooh Ohh Ohh boy why you so obsessed with me?
And all the ladies sing, all the girls sing
Soo Oohhhh Soo Oohh Obsessed

You on your job, you hittin' hard
Ain't gon feed you, gon' let you starve
Graspin' for air I'm ?
You out of breath, hope you ain't waitin
Tellin' the world how much you miss me
But we never were so why you trippin'
You a mom and pop, I'm a corporation
I'm the press conference(记者招待会), you a conversation

Ooh boy why you so obsessed with me?
Boy I want to know- lyin' that you're sexin me
when everybody knows it's clear that you're upset with me
Ohh finally found a girl that you couldn't impress
Last man on the earth- still couldn't get this

You're delusional, you're delusional
Boy you're losing your mind
It's confusin yo, you're confused you know
Why you wasting your time?
Got you all fired up with your Napoleon complex
See right through you like you're bathin' in windex

Ooh Ohh Ohh boy why you so obsessed with me?
And all the ladies sing, all the girls sing
Soo Oohhhh Soo Oohh Obsessed

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不编辑了,颜色和字母大小设定让人一个头两个大
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  • triton667

  • 血狸

By this art you may contemplate the variations of the 23 letters...
The Anatomy of Melancholy, part 2, sect. II, mem. IV
樓主真是太有心了xD
說到靠音樂來學習語文...
我是不確定我有沒有靠音樂學到英文,
但我一直記得剛來美國的時候一開始電台放的歌一首都聽不懂
可是很神奇的, 一年後竟然就懂了
也許我記不得過程了, 不過對於"我怎麼突然就聽懂了?"這個反應我是一直記著的
也許音樂對某些習慣以聲音來學習的人是個很好的方法!
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mariah carey這首歌的確是在回覆eminem的bagpipes from baghdad
mariah carey和她的先生nick cannon都很介意eminem放話說他和mc交往過六個月
所以才會有"lying that you're sexing me"這句話出現xD
個人意見...
poppin'有"get started...", "happening", "going on"的含意
而hood有"ghetto", "someone from the ghetto", 以及其他一些比較限制級的意思
我想在這邊的解讀應該是
you get it poppin' = you started it (dissing)
(是你先開始的((開始找麻煩/在歌裡互相攻擊)))
hood = hinting that eminem was from the ghetto
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話說...我是沒有很喜歡這首歌啦 (旋律問題~囧~
但是基本上我還是很愛mariah carey的歌啊~~~
(推薦"bye bye"
雖然每次聽都很難過, 但真的太好聽了!!! 是會讓人感動的歌!!!)
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Since it's immediately after "It must be the weed, it must be the E",
plus she talked about sex later in the song, I think,
"cuz you be poppin', hood, you get it poppin'"
=> because you are popping drugs, gangster, you are ready for sex

The first pop means getting high; the 2nd pop, "get it poppin" means go get some sex.
It's dirty black slang...
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Able was I ere I saw Elba.
本帖最后由 魂飞魄散 于 2009-10-6 12:47 编辑

引用:

樓主真是太有心了xD
說到靠音樂來學習語文...
我是不確定我有沒有靠音樂學到英文,
但我一直記得剛來美國的時候一開始電台放的歌一首都聽不懂
可是很神奇的, 一年後竟然就懂了
也許我記不得過程了, 不過對於"我 ...
triton667 发表于 2009-10-6 06:05
她很多歌都不错XD。其实这首obsessed电台播了有段时间,那时不特别喜欢。
不过昨天突然就obsessed了,哈哈。
byebye,大概错过了谁或失去了谁都会感触良多吧。
我喜欢她的hero。


我很久没听eminem了,所以不清楚。囧。好多前因后果的歌
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音乐只能有潜移默化的效果,确实不是一定/必须的学习通道。
毕竟一首歌的词句什么的,可以学到的实在太少了
只是希望大家可以一起学习几个字哈哈。
你看鄙人不是学到了“poppin”?
下次不说wat's up了,干脆改wat's poppin哈哈。

引用:

Since it's immediately after "It must be the weed, it must be the E",
plus she talked about sex later in the song, I think,
"cuz you be poppin', hood, you get it poppin'"
=> because you are poppin ...
stat 发表于 2009-10-6 09:24
美国文化的dirty black slang对我真的好高深莫测哈哈。
一定努力专研(?)

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谢谢你们的讨论啦哈哈。
学习学习。
鞠躬。
By this art you may contemplate the variations of the 23 letters...
The Anatomy of Melancholy, part 2, sect. II, mem. IV

引用:

Since it's immediately after "It must be the weed, it must be the E",
plus she talked about sex later in the song, I think,
"cuz you be poppin', hood, you get it poppin'"
=> because you are poppin ...
stat 发表于 2009-10-6 09:24
true, but this line comes before the sexing line
though after reading your comment i must agree with you that this probably has to do with the weed lol
tsk, if only she had phrased it as shooting dope or something...LOL
i guess i am just not "black" enough huh

引用:

她很多歌都不错XD。其实这首obsessed电台播了有段时间,那时不特别喜欢。
不过昨天突然就obsessed了,哈哈。
byebye,大概错过了谁或失去了谁都会感触良多吧。
我喜欢她的hero。


我很久没听eminem了,所 ...
魂飞魄散 发表于 2009-10-6 12:45
電台真的都很obsessed with obsessed LOL
整個很overplay!
bye bye讓我很糾結啊...!!!很愛他的旋律跟歌詞...但卻不敢多聽怕會太感傷?! 兩難!!Q__Q
hero好聽=w=
另外我承認我很聳但我超級喜歡"we belong together"和"say somethin'"
pharrell在mv裡帥到不行!!!那麼多的LV也很帥...囧~

ps: what's poppin'好"黑"xD
pps:下次來討論black eyed peas的歌吧? 也很overplay但好聽~
或是最近很紅的pitbull? 還有uncle kracker很不錯!! 不然john mraz也很夯xDDD
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電台真的都很obsessed with obsessed LOL
整個很overplay!  
bye bye讓我很糾結啊...!!!很愛他的旋律跟歌詞...但卻不敢多聽怕會太感傷?! 兩難!!Q__Q
hero好聽=w=
另外我承認我很聳但我超級喜歡"we belong together"和"say somethin'"
pharrell在mv裡帥到不行!!!那麼多的LV也很帥...囧~

ps: what's poppin'好"黑"xD
pps:下次來討論black eyed peas的歌吧? 也很overplay但好聽~  
或是最近很紅的pitbull? 還有uncle kracker很不錯!! 不然john mraz也很夯xDDDtriton667 发表于 2009-10-6 13:23
哈哈,可惜我要开始night posting了,其实post了这贴后我的小队都一直被教授“鞭策SM”,所以没有时间好好的顾。
BEP不错XD我有在听。
不过真的没时间好好码贴(不好好码我自己那关又过不去。。。
我就是那种一干正事就犯困,不务正业就精神的废才,所以灌水回帖我才有动力。。。
同学你开楼,我一定大灌特灌的。只要我有看到。
By this art you may contemplate the variations of the 23 letters...
The Anatomy of Melancholy, part 2, sect. II, mem. IV
晚上回帖沒什麼, 總比我忙到幾乎沒時間回好
開學了, 功課多到快發瘋...
突然覺得...要學英文...上youtube看comedy channels也是個辦法...xD
yes, very random, i know...